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In the excerpt from the latest episode of The Game Informer Show podcast above, Obsidian Entertainment’s co-game director Leonard Boyarsky and narrative designer Nitai Poddar explain why they aren’t sold on creating an expensive, open-world sequel to The Outer Worlds once the series is funded by Microsoft.

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